Actual Facts About Homosexuality and Goreans

There are many Goreans who try and suggest it is only in recent years that the topic of homosexuality and Gor has become very heated and divisive.

Several Goreans, including myself; have been at the forefront of addressing this topic; sharing and explaining in detail why and how many in the online community of Goreans are incorrect with their stance against homosexuality.

For some of us, this was settled years ago (over 30 years ago). But there are still MANY who insist you cannot be a homosexual and Gorean.


ACTUAL EVIDENCE OF HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE GOR BOOK SERIES
• Regarding Homosexuality –

There are a couple of examples mentioned in the Books about homosexuality in a positive light.

• The Waniyanpi

It is not clear, historically, whether the values of slaves were imposed on the Waniyanpi by their masters, or whether the Waniyanpi invented their ethos to dignify and ennoble their own weakness. It may be mentioned that, interestingly, since the Waniyanpi repudiate nature, and natural relationships, that there is, in the compounds, an unusual incidence of homosexuality, both of the male and female varieties. This is perhaps a natural enough development considering the conditioned obstacles placed in the way of more usual relationships. It also fits in better with the values of Sameness.
Bood Brothers of Gor – Page 155

• Regarding the Waniyanpi and New Seibar’s Holding –

…those who had been Waniyanpi were now no longer slaves of the Kaiila and, second, they now maintained what amounted, for most practical purposes, to a small free state within the Barrens.
These things were given to them as gifts by the Kaiila, in appreciation for the services rendered during the time of the war with the Yellow Knives and soldiers, for providing us with a tarn base within striking distance of Council Rock, and sheltering and supporting our men during the period of their training.
Blood Brothers of Gor” – Page 473

Also known as ‘the Sames’. A group of people (homosexuals) who fought and died for a cause. Died for their leaders. They were excellent soldiers and were rewarded as such.
Blood Brothers was published in 1982.


• Regarding Appanius and Milos
Appanius was a minor figure in the Book series. Not much is known about him. Just the fact the John Norman mentions him, and his particular sexual orientation should be enough.

It is also interesting to note that John Norman mentions that he was not only a Free man, but a successful Free man; owning several slaves, active and participating in his local community. All positive and productive qualities I believe.

“Appanius and Milo must be on intimate terms,” I said.
“Yes,” she said. “The master treats him almost as though he might be a free man. They discuss matters of business and the theater. Even in the great hall, at the common suppers, he has Milo above the salt and at his right hand.”
Magicians of Gor Book 25 – Page 310

Magicians of Gor was published in 1985.

Homosexuality on Gor was a fact, but it was looked down upon or ridiculed. It was not a crime nor was it seen as a perversion. The attitudes are no different than in today’s society and among many Goreans.


REGARDING GOREAN PHILOSOPHY
• Law of Nature

What is natural to a heterosexual is not natural to a homosexual.

This is perhaps a natural enough development considering the conditioned obstacles placed in the way of more usual relationships. It also fits in better with the values of Sameness.
Blood Brothers of Gor – Page 155

What many do not understand that oppose homosexuality as Gorean, is the simple fact that to a homosexual it is natural. It is normal. Their numbers may be small, percentage wise; but it is who they are. John Norman addressed it and mentioned a couple of examples that homosexuality existed on Gor. That should be enough. Period.

☑ Homosexuality on Gor was a fact. It was not a crime nor was it seen as a perversion.

It is simple fact, backed and supported by what John Norman wrote in the Book series.


REGARDING ONLINE OPPOSITION

The Gor Books mentioning homosexuality came in to print over 30 years ago. Long before the internet existed. Years before any online Gorean group. Over 20 years before Fetlife started. It is not something new that has been discussed and debated just in the past few years.

In almost every thread where someone asks a genuine, sincere question; if their profile states their sexual orientation as bisexual, homosexual, or lesbian; it becomes “fuck the question” and we are going to attack and tell you that you cannot become a Gorean.

Some Goreans say that homosexuality did not exist on Gor.
☒ WRONG
Some Goreans say it was never shown in a positive light.
☒ WRONG
Some Goreans say it is not natural and goes against the Gorean Philosophy.
☒ WRONG

Many Goreans get very defensive and refuse to accept facts. There have been the allegations and false statements that it is being shoved down the throats of everyone.

Some Goreans are against homosexuality for religious or personal beliefs and convictions. That is their choice.

People can choose to accept those who are homosexuals; or they can choose not to accept those who are homosexuals. That is a personal choice.

I wish people would just be honest with themselves and others by simply stating that are against homosexuals being Gorean. Stop trying to twist and make up false statements and allegations to try and justify your reasoning.

Goreans can choose to accept or reject anyone being a Gorean homosexual. That is their personal choice. But they CANNOT argue that it is not mentioned in the Books, or that it goes against the Gorean Philosophy.

☑ Homosexuality on Gor was a fact. It was not a crime nor was it seen as a perversion.
It is simple fact, backed and supported by what John Norman wrote in the Book series.

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